Only With Distance

Nora Johnson had been making weekly visits to an older man after he suffered a mild stroke. But he wasn’t just any older man. “We had the worst marriage in the history of human relations,” Nora wrote in her 2014 Modern Love essay. “Dysfunctional doesn’t even begin to describe it.

During her visits, the memories would come pouring back: the fights, the vacations, the plunging bank account. But Nora’s ex-husband had forgotten all that. He’d even forgotten her. And this blank slate had presented an opportunity.

Today, we listen to Nora’s story about reconnecting with her ex in spite of their painful past. Then, we meet a couple from our Vows column, Margaret Eginton Carmichael and Gregory Carmichael, who learned to date again in their sixties.

Nora Johnson died in 2017 at 84. Her obituary in The New York Times noted that her novels were “full of relationships under stress.” Her Modern Love essay from 2013, “Age is No Obstacle to Love, or Adventure,” remains one of the most read.

Hosted by: Anna Martin
Produced by: Hans Buetow, Julia Botero and Anna Martin
Edited by: Sara Sarasohn
Executive Producer: Wendy Dorr
Engineered by: Dan Powell
Theme Music: Dan Powell
Original Music: Chelsea Daniel and Hans Buetow
Essay by: Nora Johnson
Read by: Suzanne Toren
Founder, Modern Love: Daniel Jones
Editor, Modern Love Projects: Miya Lee

Special thanks: Mahima Chablani, Lauren Jackson, Renan Borelli, Jeffrey Miranda, Julia Simon, Lisa Tobin, Sam Dolnick, Margaret Eginton Carmichael, Gregory Carmichael, Vincent M. Mallozzi, Ryan Wegner and Anna Diamond at Audm.

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